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Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:30 am
by DJ99X
This is much more fair than having classes though.

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:57 am
by Vellu
yzmxer608 wrote:
Vellu wrote:Just for comparison I have 2M/2M internet at my home, and I have never had lag problems on full public servers (11 players?)
2 megabytes per second or megabits? (megabits are 1/8th of a megabyte). So 2 megabits would be 250 kilobytes per second.

I only have 655 kB (kilobytes) per second, so far it has handled at least 5 people in my server (about 6 including me) and has run fine. I imagine 2 megabytes could handle at least 15.
Yeh I meant 2 megabits, so my max down/up speed is something like 250 kbps. And I also meant that when I'm playing elsinore servers with 11 players, I've had no problems with network lag. With my server, I think I've had max. 5 players simultaneously, and no lag problems.

Sorry for being so unclear with previous post.

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:40 pm
by jlv
Here's an estimate of the bandwidth a server will use depending on how many players you have. This is in bytes/second not bits.

Players bytes/second
1 3808
2 10624
3 20448
4 33280
5 49120
6 67968
7 89824
8 114688
9 142560
10 173440
11 207328
12 244224
13 284128
14 327040
15 372960
16 421888
17 473824
18 528768
19 586720
20 647680
21 711648
22 778624
23 848608
24 921600
25 997600
26 1076608
27 1158624
28 1243648
29 1331680
30 1422720
31 1516768
32 1613824
33 1713888
34 1816960
35 1923040
36 2032128
37 2144224
38 2259328
39 2377440
40 2498560

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:23 am
by yzmxer608
So for 40 riders that's about 2,498.56 mB which is about 2.5 gB per second :shock: .

Going by that chart I should be able to run 20 riders in one server, I think... (I have 655 kB/s download speed). How much does upload speed play in this?

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:43 am
by jlv
Those numbers are bytes not kilobytes. So 40 riders would be around 2.5 megabytes per second. That would be about 20 megabits/second.

It's almost all upload bandwidth. On each step every client will tell you its state, and needs to know the state of the other clients. So for 10 players it would be 90% upload and 10% download if you don't count the headers.

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:45 am
by yzmxer608
That flew right by me haha. That makes a lot more sense now. So now knowing the chart right, and upload plays a bigger role, I should be able to smoothly run about 12 or 13 riders. I think I have 200-300 kB/s upload speed.

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:48 pm
by jb624
that would be sikk if some how someone had a server that could run all 40...then it could be like a real natonal

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:47 am
by yomo
jb624 wrote:that would be sikk if some how someone had a server that could run all 40...then it could be like a real natonal
That would require ridiculously fast internet and then people with extremely fast computers.

Im not sure but in theory would a lan setup (ethanet cables) be able to handle 40 riders?

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:33 am
by 22sheza
would mxcr85 be number 1 and red plate shack

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:41 am
by Mikey
No mittocs is because hes the best no matter what, hes always gonna be #1 everyone else foes to #2 :twisted:

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:43 am
by 22sheza
lol no serious because mxcr85 won lst year

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:53 am
by Mikey
No serious no one can beat Mittocs

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:23 pm
by JES_934
I'll definitely run this series with this format. Always enjoyed it back in the MCM2 days.

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:05 pm
by 22sheza
they can beat mittocs but mittocs is amazing tho

Re: WMSA 4: New format for online racing (READ THIS)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:16 pm
by chris465
Mikey wrote:No mittocs is because hes the best no matter what, hes always gonna be #1 everyone else foes to #2 :twisted:
So Mikey are you saying that in AMA Motorcross next year if James Stewart races he should get the number 1 plate because he is the fastest and he would have won it if he was there? LOL Racing is racing you still have to win to get the title!