2009-11-06 snapshot (updated again and again...)

[Wes Wamsley]

Ok i think this would be it

[quote=\\\"jlv\\\"][quote=\\\"Wes Wamsley\\\"]Oh wait so the reason nothing looks shiny like it did in the snapshot before this is because maps haven\\\\\\\'t been added? explain this to me please?[/quote]
No the original per pixel shader is still there. Post lastlog.txt so I can see the shader compiler errors.[/quote]

[jlv]

Now that I think about it, there's a bug in the skin naming. I forgot to filter then normal/specular maps out of the skin list.

[Wes Wamsley]

wtf that post got messed up...

[Wes Wamsley]

agh! ok ill pm it to you

[DJ99X]

Now that I think about it, there's a bug in the skin naming. I forgot to filter then normal/specular maps out of the skin list.

Would that explain why the rider goes 100% ambient when I try to apply a normal map on it

[Garasaki]

Now that I think about it, there's a bug in the skin naming. I forgot to filter then normal/specular maps out of the skin list.

Yeah I got that too.

I also got me a blue rider....

[DJ99X]

Yep, Id say theres definitely a bug applying the normal map to the rider. My map made the rider 100% ambient. Applying the same map to my bike model did not

[Garasaki]

i disagree about 100% ambient

To me the bug appears to be treating the normal as an overlay not as a normal map

100% purple



100% red

[Garasaki]

i agree about the bug though

[yomo]

It's been updated FYI

[jlv]

If you don't have at least 50% blue the normals will be backwards. Try 50% red, 50% green and 100% blue and go from there.

I've fixed the bug that affected Wes and the skin list bug.

[DJ99X]

Thing is though, I used the exact same normal map on my yzf without that problem

[Garasaki]

I think the bug me and DJ had was fixed - wether you meant to or not.

I went from blue overlay to this



I think I have it implemented but have to tweak the heck out of it yet

[ddmx]

WOW, I'm sooo pumped right now. Tomorrow I'll try and bake some high poly normal maps for the rider model, and then I might do the same for the ktm models.

[yomo]

Yomo, typically you create two meshes, one low detail mesh that you will actually use, and another super detailed mesh that you use to create the normals for the less detailed mesh. Look up texture baking for more info.

When you say super high detailed... Is that a higher detailed model or higher resolution texture?

Is this correct? Say you were making a bike, would you use a detailed model of say 20,000 polys "in game" with a normal texture of normal resolution (say 2048x2048) and then create a model of 50,000 which you use to render and create a normal map which is applied to that first model? Is that normal map also 2048x2048 in size?

What extra poly detail would you use to create a normal map? (ie 3 times or is a simple multiplier too basic)

Also how are you thinking of making this user content contribution work?

Thanks again