Suggestions for Mx Sim Editor

[Motoboss]

1. First and foremost please make it where we can paint the dismap in PS ....I was talking with Wingman and we both unanimously agree that tracks would be so much more detailed if it were this way.
2. It would be nice if there were other brushes besides circles maybe squares and different shapes to choose from
3. Shadows if we could change shadow direction by moving the sun direction and even do the shadows in a different program... This would also make the tracks much more detailed.
4. The smoothing tool shouldn't make the track slick every time I try to smooth something out it is as slick as ice when i ride on it.
5 It would be nice to have a height scale and terrain scale that you could adjust easily in the editor.

I'm sure Ill think of more just wanted to get this Rolling.



I know some of you wont agree with me but I have been making tracks for a long time and when I tell my thoughts on this subject you should believe I wouldn't suggest these things unless I knew they would benefit everyone.
With the things I ask.. the difference in track Quality would be outstanding
Dont get me wrong I like the Sim editor in some ways its really great to use.

Thanks
Motoboss

[Garasaki]

1. First and foremost please make it where we can paint the dismap in PS ....I was talking with Wingman and we both unanimously agree that tracks would be so much more detailed if it were this way.

Do you mean create textures outside of the editor or do you mean create a disp map outside of the editor. Because you can make your disp map outside the editor.

3. Shadows if we could change shadow direction by moving the sun direction and even do the shadows in a different program... This would also make the tracks much more detailed.

You can edit/create the shadow file in photoshop. I am not sure anyone (else) has really explored this yet. I don't really know if it improves the shadows or not, but I suspect it does. I believe you can also define the sun location in one of the track config files.

5 It would be nice to have a height scale and terrain scale that you could adjust easily in the editor.

I agree with this for sure. It is adjustable now thru the track config file thing but that means you have to close and open the game each time you want to tweak it (right? or am I missing something) which is very annoying.

[Motoboss]

Yep I meant for Textures I know about the dismap Ive done it many times I dont make my dismaps in PS but I do do some things IMO it is way easier to do in the editor and with the MVA editor I could do just as good quality if not better because I didnt have to do extra steps just to test it
As for shadows even if there is a file somewhere for it It shouldnt be that difficult to adjust IMO

[wakestyle21]

I think the way the shadows are done now is really good. As far as i know you can just render shadows in an external program and just put the generated image in your track folder and name it shading.png. I don't know how this could be any easier.

[ddmx]

1. First and foremost please make it where we can paint the dismap in PS ....I was talking with Wingman and we both unanimously agree that tracks would be so much more detailed if it were this way.

I was thinking that it would be nice to have a button to auto update the disp while the game was still running. I mean like if you put the game in windowed mode, jumped into ps real quick and updated the disp, then you could go back into the game without closing it and hit a little button that updated the disp.

I have thought this before, and I will say it again, I strongly believe that this game would benefit greatly from a separate editor. One that gives more and better options for object placement, a 3d viewport to easily navigate the track, realtime updating of decal files and disp files, and an easy to use gui.

[FactoryBR21]

Yeap , i agree and isn't fun make a track in PS , you need open game and the folder evertime
You Got tired ! I agree about the import buttons but i like the textures's way....

[ddmx]

The decals system I think is the way to go it seems. The level of detail obtainable is amazing, just untouched so far. We just need a better means of using all the editing options.

[Motoboss]

I could deal with everthing else but My main concern is painting the dismap in PS

[Pumaxcs]

i personally could never ever make a texture to cover my whole track i am just learning to make the lil squares telling me the whole track is the square just inst gunna happen

[ddmx]

I could deal with everthing else but My main concern is painting the dismap in PS

You can paint the disp in ps. Just make a new template sized 1025 x 1025 and then save your final as terrain.png in your track folder. Just make a note that any changes you make in game, and then save, will change your disp map colors that you made in ps. After saving, the game always reverts your disps "lowest" color to black, even if it was gray. When doing this it also changes your terrain.hf file. This is really annoying imo but it still happens. It's kind of hard to explain right, but if you have questions about it ask me on msn.

[Garasaki]

He wants to make textures in photoshop.

I'm not sure why he keeps using the phrase "paint a disp map in PS" but it is confusing.

He knows you can create a disp in PS. He wants to create textures in PS too.

I think it'd be neat to do both.

[ddmx]

There is a technique I've been experimenting with that combines ideas from mva and mxs as far as texture painting. Goardy pioneered this idea which he is using on Donington, and I'm sure Lakewood. There are of course at least a couple of things you can do to allow this also style. I'll upload a pic showing what you could do.

[FactoryBR21]

I want learn this way too , i'm noot good with decals

[checkerz]

An "update displacement" button inside the editor would be incredibly helpful.

It is also frustrating have to paint over my track everytime I bring it in to update the shadows, it makes making even minor changes a very long and tedious process. It's also annoying when testing a track having to wait for the gate to drop every time. This process could be cut in half.

Current Process: (from testing to making a change to test again)
Exit to main menu
Close game
Open Photoshop (or atleast bring it back up)
Make changes
Save PSD
Save PNG
Open MXS
Select New race
Select Track
Paint over track to update shadows
Wait for the gate to drop
Test.
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It should be:
Open PS
Make Changes
Save PSD
Save PNG
Update Disp
Test

[wakestyle21]

It's also annoying when testing a track having to wait for the gate to drop every time

You can use time trial mode to get around this. This method is actually very efficient I have found. You can place the second to last timing gate right before the section you are working on then all you have to do it press the "back up" button while testing to reset yourself and keep testing the section over and over.