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ShackAttack12 wrote:
There is information missing from the question.

What about if he started accelerating slowly then all of a sudden went 100% throttle during the last 5 seconds to reach 30m/s? The distance traveled would be drastically different than if he accelerated at a constant rate. I would think the question is assuming constant rate of acceleration and deceleration, because its much easier to figure out. Otherwise, the distance travelled could be much different.
Well I assume constant acel and decel, most of the times the problem would say not to asume.
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Another way to find the lenght would be by calculating the area under the graph VxT
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LuizH wrote:Another way to find the lenght would be by calculating the area under the graph VxT
ok that is how i am suppose to do it, all the stuff you said before, dint understand 1 bit of it(i'm stupid i know).

first part of the question is to draw the trip of the car.
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So the first part of trip is the constant aceleration
V goes from 0 to 30 in 20s, so the you got 2 points (0,0) and (20,30) since aceleration is constant you join the two points by a straight.
Now second part of trip accelaration=0 so V is constant and its a straight till t=50s
The last part V goes from 30 to 0 in 30s so you got the point (50,30) and (80,0) and since decelaration(brake) is constant you joint the points by a straight but this time going down.
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double post, this one is the correct graph with t on the x axis
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LuizH wrote:I was just posting to you check my calcs because i tend to make silly mistakes, specialy on vacations when i realized the lenght of first part is 300 not 100
So total lenght is 1650
that changes average speed too Vav=20,625
Let me work this out to see if i come up with the same thing.

First, list the givens:
Acceleration:
Initial Velocity = 0m/s
Final Velocity = 30m/s
Time= 20 seconds
Distance, x = ???

Assuming constant acceleration rate:

Average Acceleration: ( V - Vo ) / time
Average Acceleration: ( 30m/s - 0m/s ) / 20s
Average Acceleration: 1.5m/s^2

To find distance:
x = Vot + 1/2at^2
x = (0*20) + (1/2)(1.5m/s^2)(20^2)
x = 300m

For travelling at a constant rate, that's easy.
He went 30m/s for 30 seconds.
Distance = Velocity * Time
x = 30m/s * 20s
x = 600m

For the Deceleration, you just do the opposite of acceleration, since its essentially negative acceleration:
Vo = 30m/s
V = 0m/s
t = 30s
x = ???

Average Decel, a = - ( V - Vo ) / time
Average Decel, a = - ( 0m/s - 30m/s ) / 30s
Average Decel, a = 1m/s^2

To find Distance:
x = Vt + 1/2at^2
x = (0m/s)(30s) + (1/2)(1m/s^2)(30s^2)
x = 450m

So add the 3 values:
300m + 600m + 450m = 1350m

2, Average velocity is distance over time.
x = v * t
1350m = v * (20s+30s+30s)
1350m / 80s = v
v= 16.875m/s
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you made
x = 30m/s * 20s
x = 600m
where should be 30 s
the rest is just like I've made other then more organized :D
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magnusson wrote:science class question's. giggity

car setting off from a standstill point. it takes him 20 seconds to catch the speed 30 meters per seconds (30x3.6=108km/h right?). Then he drives on a even speed for the next 30 seconds. and then he brakes and it takes him 30 seconds to stop.

Q1; What is the cars trip in length?

Q2; what is his average speed?

need to know how the fuck i answer there damn question, i knew how but i decided not to remember...
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LuizH wrote:you made
x = 30m/s * 20s
x = 600m
where should be 30 s
the rest is just like I've made other then more organized :D
Oh shit, you are right. LOL
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ShackAttack12 wrote:
magnusson wrote:science class question's. giggity

Then he drives on a even speed for the next 30s
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Here's the answer:

First, list the givens:
Acceleration:
Initial Velocity = 0m/s
Final Velocity = 30m/s
Time= 20 seconds
Distance, x = ???

Assuming constant acceleration rate:

Average Acceleration: ( V - Vo ) / time
Average Acceleration: ( 30m/s - 0m/s ) / 20s
Average Acceleration: 1.5m/s^2

To find distance:
x = Vot + 1/2at^2
x = (0*20) + (1/2)(1.5m/s^2)(20^2)
x = 300m

For travelling at a constant rate, that's easy.
He went 30m/s for 30 seconds.
Distance = Velocity * Time
x = 30m/s * 30s
x = 900m

For the Deceleration, you just do the opposite of acceleration, since its essentially negative acceleration:
Vo = 30m/s
V = 0m/s
t = 30s
x = ???

Average Decel, a = - ( V - Vo ) / time
Average Decel, a = - ( 0m/s - 30m/s ) / 30s
Average Decel, a = 1m/s^2

To find Distance:
x = Vt + 1/2at^2
x = (0m/s)(30s) + (1/2)(1m/s^2)(30s^2)
x = 450m

So add the 3 values:
300m + 900m + 450m = 1650m

2, Average velocity is distance over time.
x = v * t
1650m = v * (20s+30s+30s)
1650m / 80s = v
v= 20.625m/s
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i'm starting to understand this much better thanks for your time. and for those ho have nothing to do here's another question :D


ROCKET!! its weight is 6000kg and its shot upp whit the force 90000N

Q1 does she fly?

Q2 what will her acceleration be?
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F-G=ma where F = 90 000N, G=mg where m = 6000kg and g = 9,81 m/s^2

=> a= (F-G)/m = (90 000N - 6000kg*9,81m/s^2)/(6000kg) = 5,19 m/s^2

So, yes, she'll fly.
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Provided that the thrust force is a constant and it's not let off. If it's an impulse, then it won't fly very far. :mrgreen:
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Dang I jut whent to brush my theets before answer that and shadow allready did :lol:
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