m121c wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:31 pm
And with that frivolous strawman, I'm out of this discussion. Feel free to take your last shot, but this isn't productive dialogue with out any honest effort to evaluate anything for yourself.
Equating the circumstances we are in now to the absurdness that is aliens visiting Earth is as pointless as dismissing it all as a complete lie without any honest review; much like citing the badly politicized media reports on the court count. I can make lazy arguments too, if the court loses are indications of weak evidence, than clearly the Texas lawsuit being joined by 18 states is a good indication that the states in question (PA, MI, WI, GA) violated the constitution (and their own) in attempt to widely expand mail in voting without safeguards knowing the threat of fraud.
I certainly didn't intend to make a strawman argument. But this is what we're dealing with:
Giuliani witness Melissa Carone peddles wild theory Obama funded Wuhan lab to create Covid
This is what they are. Trump has nothing legitimate to challenge with so he's going with the kitchen sink approach and bringing out any freak who will testify. Maybe it's lazy arguing on my part but I don't care to debunk every single claim in an everything but the kitchen sink argument. One list of invalid PA voters would be worth more than a thousand kook witnesses. But Trump can't come up with that list, which kind of proves that the election was legit.
I'm not trying to zing you or insult you here, but I think Trump has a way of driving people crazy on both sides. For the liberals, every dumb tweet is the end of democracy, so yeah they have TDS. For our side, when Trump is literally trying to subvert an election that he obviously lost, *we* have TDS the other way for pretending it's not true.
This guy is making a mockery of everything we believe in and we're cheering him on. I'm sure it's pretty funny for Havoc to watch but for me watching my side turn into conspiracy kooks is painful to watch. Especially when it's friends.
BTW, there's a pretty good new article on the court cases
here if you're interested.
Jones221 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:18 pm
Kamala in 2022 when she takes over
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